Report on the Creation Conference in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan
January 15, 16 & 17, 2010.
by Rudi Fast
In the first presentation at the International Bible College (which is affiliated with the Church of God) Mike Oard spoke about the effects of the Flood of Noah on the landscape of southern Alberta and Saskatchewan. He indicated that the 371-day lifespan of the Flood of Noah could be separated into two events, namely, the advance and the recession of the waters. He indicated that the sedimentary rocks and fossils in the area were deposited by the advance of the waters, and that the receding waters caused much erosion on the earth. The flat top of the Cyprus Hills is a planation surface that was leveled by fast currents carrying quartzites coming from the Rocky Mountains. Under the level top of the Cyprus Hills there are millions of tons of rounded quartzite rocks that were formed and transported there under at least 50 meters of Flood waters traveling at over 105 kmph. Such conditions are necessary for the percussion marks to form as they appear on billions of the rounded rocks in the plains regions.
In the second session at International Bible College, Mike indicated that there are 30 terms in Genesis that suggest the Flood was worldwide. During the recession period the waters cut channels between large obstructions called water gaps. Wind gaps were also formed, but were not eroded down enough to have a stream or river flow through, but only wind. The rainbow is God’s promise that never again will there be a world wide Flood. After the Flood the ice age began, lasting about 700 years. Even the years 1400 – 1880 AD are known as the little ice age. He noted that after the Flood mankind probably lived in caves, and hence we have much evidence of “cave men” having lived after the Flood. However, they were fully human.
Session
3
This session took place at the Church of God Friday evening. It was called “Is Evolution a Fact?” He indicated that the Finches on Galapagos Island have had beak size and shape changes from natural selection, not because of evolution. In true science the world is observed in great detail in the course of investigation. Evolution (increasing complexity) has not been observed, so it cannot be a valid scientific theory. Ancient animals such as the trilobite had extremely complex eyes. No ancestor having simple eyes can be found to those having such complex eyes. Mike concluded that macroevolution is not observed, so therefore it cannot be accepted as a scientific theory.
Session 4
This second session in the Church of God is when Mike spoke about “Global Warming.” It was noted that 95% of warming in regions on earth are caused by water vapor and less than 5% by CO2. It was noted that southwest Greenland was colonized by the Vikings in the middle ages. The globe seems to have been cooling in the last seven years. Weather models are very incomplete and inaccurate when trying to predict the temperature rise from a doubling of carbon dioxide. The data used to place into large computers is very sparse and the Russians have complained that some of their data has not even been used from their cold regions. Computer models cannot make accurate forecasts if their database is incomplete. This was a very timely topic for people today.
Session 5
The first session on Saturday evening in the First Free Methodist Church dealt with evidences of the early part of the Flood. Some scientists believe there was no global Flood. There are many Flood traditions (more than 200) and many of them have parallel facts. The Grand Canyon is a monument to the Flood. There are hundreds of miles of horizontal layers extending across the USA. Secondly, there are fossil graveyards. The swiftness of the Flood’s appearance is seen where a mother fish is buried and fossilized giving birth to a baby; they were both suddenly encased in mud as can be seen in the fossil record. Mount St. Helen’s erupted and in a matter of days produced a million trees floating in Spirit Lake. After a short period of time the floating trees became water logged and slowly submerged in an upright posture. Sedimentation of the lake pressed them into place producing the same features as the petrified “forests” in Yellowstone National Park.
Session 6
In the second session Saturday, Mike spoke about the retreating stage of the Flood. This seems to have taken place from day 150 to day 371 according to Scripture. In places in the USA there are 17,000 feet of erosion deposits between mountains. According to Psalm 104:6-9 “…the mountains rose and the valleys sank,” which would result in the Flood water draining off the future continents. In many places on the earth there are marine fossils on top of mountains. Tall erosional remnants or solidified molten rock chimneys can be found standing in the plains of USA and other countries that were made under water and still stand, many hundreds of feet above the flat plains. All around them the ground has eroded. Monument Valley in the USA has many “Devil’s Towers.” Quartzite layers from the western Rocky Mountains were eroded underwater and spread across the prairies. They leveled rough and uneven surfaces and then when the currents slowed down, a thin layer of rounded quartzite rocks capped those surfaces by the millions. Such surfaces are not being formed today. Some of these rounded rocks were deposited in deep cracks up to 500 cubic miles in volume in northwest Wyoming.
Session 7
In the adult Sunday School class in the First Free Methodist Church, Mike spoke about how only the Bible could explain the Ice Age. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 challenges us to “…test everything and hold onto what is good.” There is no doubt that our present surface land features testify to the ice age of the past. There are horseshoe shaped moraines, erratic rocks, and rocks having glacial striations. There needs to be a drop in temperature of 50oF in the northern hemisphere areas to produce an ice age. It was absolutely necessary to have cool summers. Some areas in Canada and southern England were not glaciated. The ice thickness in North America was up to 800 meters. In the Antarctica it was 950 meters. There was only one ice age. We need to examine facts very carefully.
Session 8
In the final session during the Sunday worship service, Mike spoke on “Why are young People Leaving The Churches?” This topic came from Ken Ham’s book “Already Gone”. Ken Ham interviewed 1000 young people that left the churches, ages 20 – 29. 40% had doubts about the Bible and 72% still believed in Genesis. Ken Ham’s survey suggested the “millions of years” issue is the main cause of the young people leaving the churches after high school or university. Mike then asked if it might be possible to fit the “millions of years” concept into the bible. Mike recalled that Jesus used Genesis 1 & 2 to establish the marriage relationship. Also, if Genesis 3 is true, then we need a Savior. The fruit (shown in the shape of a hand grenade) was eaten by Adam and Eve and there was an “explosion” in the plan for mankind. Romans 5:12 shows that death came by one man. In the USA 106 out of 108 colleges were started by men of the Bible. When looking at a sand castle in the sand or a beautiful man made sand structure, the work cries out ”…CREATED!” They do not give evidence of being formed by millions of years of erosion. If we look at protein molecules in DNA folding we see something a computer would take two years to do, yet it is happening all throughout our bodies every second. Carbon 14 dating, and other dating methods show the earth to be young. Romans 1:20 says, “From the creation of the world, God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly observed in what He made. As a result people have no excuse.” Renowned scientists like Anthony Flew have come to believe in God by what they observe about the exquisite creation around us. The Spirit can do the same for us.
During sessions 3, 5, 6 & 8, Barbara
Miller presented concurrent lessons to the children on topics such as
“Dinosaurs and the Bible,” “Fossils” and “A Bird’s Eye View of Creation
Week.”
We enjoyed the Bible quotes, even
one passage done in 4 languages; music,
displays, and the challenge of the quizes. For us as a family, this
yearly
weekend has been a major focus of our learning, and a good spiritual
strength for our family.
1999 CSSI SUMMER TOUR TO ALBERTA
The summer tour was a real highlight of our summer.
August 3
We met at the Royal Tyrrell Museum at about 6:00 P.M. and followed
our tour guide, Ray
Strom, to the Hoodoos, a twenty minute drive along #10 highway
southeast
of Drumheller.
These sandstone outcroppings are very striking. Ray, a geological
technician in the Calgary oil
industry, explained how they could have originated during deposition
at the time of the
worldwide Flood. The harder capstones provided protection to
the lower layers during erosion
from wind and rain (or other forces) over several centuries.
Therefore the vertical structures
were able to remain standing until today. Ray encouraged the
tour members to look at the
evidences in light of the Biblical Flood alongside the popularized
evolutionary theory.
Mr. Ray
Strom
Some of the Hoodoos
August 4
The day began at the Museum with a half hour drive northwest of
Drumheller
to the banks of
the Red Deer River west of Morin along #27 highway. Ray talked
to the group and encouraged
us to look for dinosaur fossils. Many people actually did find
some mineralized dinosaur bones.
The children were especially good at finding fossils.
In the afternoon we toured the displays inside the Royal Tyrrell Museum
on what was perhaps
their busiest day of the year. The variety of displays, the
number
of partial specimens, as well as
the casts or reproductions, were very impressive. The
Tyrannosaurus
Rex was awesome. The
fact that the outdated example of the evolution of the horse was still
on display was somewhat
disappointing. In the evening we were all together (75 bodies)
for a supper meal that was
served inside but we could take it outside if we wished. Because
of the splendid weather that
lasted to the very end of the tour, some felt more comfortable outside
away from the air
conditioners.
After supper Ray Strom made a slide presentation in the Royal Tyrrell
Museum auditorium.
(This is thought to be the first ever creationist lecture in their
auditorium.) The most interesting
slides showed specimens he had prepared for the scanning electron
microscope.
The theme that
recurred often was the design-at-a-distance that transformed into
design-close-up.
The eye of
the fly shows many facets at medium magnification, then when a single
facet is magnified, order
and design is observed again. The evening was a wonderful
opportunity
to glorify the Designer
who is concerned about the smallest details.
August 5
We gathered at the South Calgary Mall complex at 11:00 A.M. After
scouting out some food
for lunch and a few minor repairs on the battery connections of a
camper
van, we left for the
Canyon Creek area to have lunch and explore the ice caves.
Again, Ray introduced
the new
topography to us in a group presentation and lead us up the side of
the mountain. After
detouring from the trail many times some of the group arrived at the
ice caves after about two
hours. These caves are situated in areas where the snow and rains
of the winter and summer
penetrate the cave roofs resulting in large masses of ice forming
inside
the caves in winter. Even
on August 5 the interior temperature felt close to freezing.
The mountains are layered in this
area and give evidence of uplifting resulting in bending of the layers,
often without fracturing so
they must have been bent while still soft. The fossil contents
in the rocks suggest they are
marine layers, much different than those of the Drumheller area.
Many tired but happy climbers
returned to base at 7:15 P.M. What a neat day!
August 6
Mount Yamnuske. Six hardy souls climbed to the tree line.
On Friday we began with an hours drive on #20 highway north from
Bragg
Creek and then west
on #1 ending up north of Seebe at Mt. Yamnuske. We had lunch
in a rock quarry and then Ray
had a time of prayer and gave a talk on the over thrust we were
planning
to visit. The accepted
geological theory proposes that the 300 m thick Eldon layer at the
top with its “older” fossil
contents had been transferred 6 or 7 km from the west and thrust up
over the so-called
“younger”, fossil-dated Belly River layer. Yet the coal seam
interface was rarely disturbed
enough to give evidence of the terrific forces that would have been
involved if such an over
thrust had taken place. The climb was really exhilarating and
the view from the slope-wall
interface was spectacular. The drumlins (glacial formations)
in the valley could be seem for
miles. Imagine what the view from the very top of the mountain
would have been like. Just as
we all descended at 4:30 P.M. the rain began to fall - the timing was
perfect. This mountain had
special significance to Ray. It was here that he had made a
decision
to follow Christ at a youth
camp-out.
The tour was great. The staff at the Tyrrell museum were
really
cooperative. The children and
even some of the older people - some over 80 years old, loved the
climbs.
The Lord was
exalted in Ray's presentations. Everyone learned something about
geology from a Biblical
perspective. One 10-year old attender said to Ray Strom, “Last
year we went to Disney World
in Florida but it wasn’t nearly as good as this!” The wonders
of God’s creation still beat man’s
creative efforts, at least in the minds of those who know and love
Him. We trust God will use
this time together to leave a lasting impact on lives young and old.
Part of our group of 77 people.
I must express my admiration for the families with young children
who
took the time and made
the substantial effort that was necessary to fit this tour into their
summer. A big thank you to
each one who came along. Without you it would have been a wasted
effort. There were very
few complaints during the tour. That was great! We realize
that we should have provided more
information (including maps, etc.) of the day-to-day times and places
of the various activities.
That is something we will remember for the next tour. If there
are any other suggestions about
how to make the next tour even better, please contact Garry Miller
or myself. Thank you to
everyone who helped make the tour a fantastic occasion.
Rudi Fast, CSSI President.
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